If you think I’m going to write about current events, you’re wrong. I’m going to write about time.
Long ago railways phased out cabooses. Like puppies and cold beer, everyone loves a caboose! (Get your head out of the gutter!) I’d read somewhere you could buy one cheap. I recall something like $500 or $100… I’m not sure. It was along time ago. Probably 30 years I think?
I remember that moment. I drove to a train yard and looked upon a huge array of old cabooses. They really were for sale! How cool is that?!
Of course there’s more to a thing like that than the initial purchase. There was the issue of shipping the behemoth… and I didn’t have any land upon which to plant it. I was a broke ass kid. The logistics were beyond me. I shrugged my shoulders and let the moment pass.
If I could regain that moment I’d love it! If I could have a caboose at that price and from that time magically transported to my homestead I’d sprain my arm throwing money at whomever offered it. Alas, it was a one time opportunity.
Our household’s cars are aging. Among three main vehicles I estimate we’ve accumulated 600,000 miles on various odometers.* They’re all still fine but we had a close call with a deer a few months ago. We nearly lost one of three.
That got me thinking. Being a belt and suspenders kind of guy, I’d love to have a “beater car” as a backup. However, “beater car” has gradually become a concept from a time before.
When gasoline was made of gasoline and carburetors still walked the earth, a Buick cost eight grand, you could pay it off in 4 years, and maintenance was constant but cheap. That sort of vehicle also drove like a potato, burned a lot of fuel, lacked things like electric windows or AC, and had half the lifespan of a modern EPA compliant space vehicle.
Back then odometers “rolled over” at 99,999 miles.
A ten year old Buick of that era is what I’m thinking about but I don’t live in that era. I spent my youth in rusty pieces of shit. I bought them cash, drove them a while, and then swapped to the next one. I was a bottom feeder. Cars of that time rarely “rolled over” twice.
Here in 2023 that’s an old timey geezer idea. A cheap ass “backup” car that can be bought with spare change and will get to town but not much further has been replaced by a laptop on wheels that starts with an 8 year payment plan and runs a quarter million miles before something big goes out that’s too expensive to repair.
Cars are immensely more expensive/complex and that changes everything. They’re superior in many ways but they’re also big ticket items. As a result, Americans keep their cars running as long as they can… we follow the trail blazed by highly regulated worlds; such as Cuba and private aviation. (Ever wonder why the “logbook” on a 50 year old Cessna is almost as valuable as the plane itself? Ask the FAA.)
Does it matter. Nah! I’ve got plenty of years and miles left in my “fleet”. I don’t need to pine for a type of car that existed in an economy that’s long gone. There might be a few out there but the market itself probably fell on the altar of “Cash for Clunkers”.
I’ll shrug my shoulders and let a moment pass.
But wait! I’m here to talk about a moment that’s not passed. Used motorcycles right now are undergoing the transition that’s mostly over for used cars.
If you walk into a modern motorcycle stealership you’ll see the most amazing, cool, powerful, technologically advanced, motorcycles. They’re awesome! They’re fuel injected, have ABS, come with navigation, want to engage in bluetooth tomfoolery with your cell phone, etc… Motorcycles are the last of machines piloted by people who can use a clutch but even that is fading. Honda is already shipping Golwdings with automatic transmission. (Groan all you want, from what I’ve heard Honda has nailed it.)
Modern flagship bikes are incredibly cool but they’re also inhumanly expensive!
YMMV but I also think they’ll be a stone cold bitch to maintain in 20 years. Just as a modern car is totaled when the airbags deploy and a Tesla is junked if the battery is nipped, so to with the modern motorcycle. A $30,000 full dress bagger bought today is going to be very hard to maintain in 2043.
What can we learn from the lesson of cars? Forget what’s on the motorcycle showroom floor and consider the bike’s ancestors. My Honda cruiser was made in 1999. It lacks ABS, has two carburetors, and doesn’t have radios and navigation. What it does have is liquid cooling, shaft drive, disk brakes, and modern metallurgy. It was built like a brick shithouse; go Honda!
My bike runs like it did the day I bought it and has had hardly any issues. With basic maintenance it could last forever. If you couldn’t afford it in 1999 maybe now’s your time?
I dropped something like $8k on my bike when I bought it new. I probably added a grand in saddlebags and shit over the years. Used bikes exactly like mine are readily had for $2,000-$3,000. The difference between performance on day one and two decades later is nil. If you want that sort of machine, a few grand is a smoking hot deal!
I think there’s a sweet spot with the used motorcycle market and that moment is right now. History is like this: UJMs (universal Japanese motorcycles) of the 1970s and 1980s can be infinitely fixed and are great fun. They’ll hang OK in modern traffic but they’re a bit basic. By the late 1980s and 1990s many bikes were functionally equivalent to anything you’d need right now but they were still infinitely reparable. It’s hard to say when that moment passed but it did. I guess around 2010 is when they started the drift toward the not infinitely reparable.
Also, I might as well point out that motorcycle riders in America are fading too. Used vehicles are usually purchased by young people entering the market. With some exceptions younger generations are barely willing to walk outdoors where it might rain. The population of people that can swing a leg over a rolling engine and ride it to the horizon is us… not the youth who are afraid of their own shadow. You might as well capitalize on this!
That’s just my opinion, you’re welcome to mock me.
I am prowling Craigslist. I’m looking for… I’m not sure what. I’m looking for something that will be gone in 10 years and it’s cheap now. Something from the “infinitely reparable yet ready to ride without a wrench in your pocket” era. Wish me luck.
I already have a V-Twin so I want something different. I’m looking at old Goldwings. The GL1200 / GL1500 series had bulletproof engines but still had repairable carburetors and serviceable parts. No ABS, fuel injection is uncommon, etc… Goldwings have the best reputation for long miles. They’re sometimes infected with decrepit technology, faded LCD screens, stereo systems from the cassette era, etc… I’m looking for bikes with the least features; not the most.
There’s other candidates too, some Yamaha Ventures, the Kawasaki Concourse, I’m weirdly attracted to the goofy market failure that is the Honda Pacific Coast, I’m not sure about some of the inline engine BMW tourers (I may be too short for them), and Moto Guzzis look cool but they seem pretty rare. I’m not looking at Harleys. They don’t interest me.
What you do with this information is up to you. What I do with it is uncertain too.
All I can say is “It’s a strange time so recognize it”. If you want the biggest baddest most mile eating supertourer of 1988 you can get one in mint condition and plenty of miles left fir a high market price of $7k. I’m looking at the under $5k market and haven’t yet found what I want; but I’m patient.
Memento mori; remember you are going to die.
I just checked out a clapped out GL1200 for $2k. The bike would probably run another 100,000 miles but the non-mechanical stuff was pretty banged up. The motor was as smooth as silk but detached switches and stuff that doesn’t work were all over the bike. It’ll ride fine and the right person could ignore it all for an easy 50,000 miles for sure.
I decided I’d like less drama. Also, I’m a shitty mechanic. It’s wise to spend more up front to avoid future issues. (Also the local motorcycle mechanic’s pool is pretty thin!)
What really got me was the last line in the ad. It mentioned the mileage and various features and so forth. Then it ended with this:
Reason for selling, 82.
That’s it isn’t it?
The whole arc of mortality in four words.
I met the seller. He looked pretty spry for 82. He explained that his balance wasn’t what it once was. That’s is a biological certainty for all of us. Regardless, I hope I look that good when I’m that age.
The bike wasn’t what I wanted but I lingered, soaking up everything he had to say. He seemed a good fellow who’d done cool things. I heard a small sliver of a fascinating life story. I hung on every word. I can find another bike somewhere else, but I wish I knew the guy so I could hear more.
We’re all gonna’ die. In case you’re wondering that includes you too. When your time approaches you can be the guy standing in a garage telling a bearded stranger about your many motorcycle trips to Alaska. Or you can spend your time doing nothing and therefore have nothing to say. Your call.
On that happy note, I’ll stop typing.
Bye.
A.C.
*Ponder my accumulated mileage for a minute. A generic nobody of a blogger with some basic vehicles has traveled well over half a million miles. That’s just the current crop of cars in the driveway (I have owned many cars). I’ve no idea how many million miles my eyes have seen but it’s unfathomably vast. Compared to most humans in all of history I have lived larger than a king. The personally owned vehicle is freedom. Never let your gift from the inventive generations before you be seized!
AC, if you’re going to do that, do it quick. That market is rapidly closing.
20 years ago, I used to pick up UJMs for $200-500, fix ’em up, and sell them for a grand or so. Being sentimental, I kept some, of course. Almost always, the biggest problem was that they’d been parked with gas in them, which had turned to varnish. Disassemble the carbs, run ’em through my Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner, a rebuild kit for each ($10-20 apiece back then), and a lot of the time, they then just needed a set of tires & an oil change to be road-ready.
(Bike carbs aren’t really hard to rebuild, but I’m a mechanic’s son; an AFB or Quadrajet isn’t, either.)
Now, starting prices are $1500 or better. Not a stopper, but it ain’t as easy or cheap as it used to be. I did keep a few—’79 CB750F, ’82 CB900F, ’80GS1000, ’78 GS550 (with matching Vetter bags and fairing; I bought it thinking I’d pull the furniture & sell it & make back the $700 purchase price, but it was just too pretty, so I kept it), even an ’80 CX500C (fucking bulletproof, and certainly an oddball).
So, prices are up and availability down, but they’re still out there. Here in TN, I can find old 1000/1200 Wings for maybe $1500-2000. Happy hunting, brother, and enjoy the hell out of it! Be safe, in moderation. They’re bikes, so of course they’re dangerous, but they’re as much fun as you can have with your clothes on!
I forgot–there isn’t a damned thing wrong with the Pacific Coast bikes. Don’t forget their (sort of) successors, either, the ST100–V-4 with carbs; the ST1300 was injected.
Something about the Pacific Coast is so weird I can’t tell if I’d love it or hate it but it probably had no middle ground. All that plastic freaks me out but I like odd things.
I’m considering the ST1100 too. I’m not sure if the riding position is too “sporty” for my cruiser trained taste. The ST1300 has issues with “pan weave”. I think that’s probably no big deal but I can avoid any hint of a hassle by just taking that off my list.
My ’94 GMC Suburban K1500 has north of 498K miles and is still going strong.
I’ve run into a number of old dudes like that at my Church. You’ll be talking to some old dude, about as mild mannered as can be, with that west Texas accent and come to find out he was a door gunner in Vietnam.
My son just bought a used BMW K1600. It’s fantastic. But not for shorties or lightweights. He tips in at 140 and has issues muscling the thing around the garage.
Since he got that I’ve been looking to get back into the game, and like you have been perusing goldwing ads. I’ve seen a few under $3k, but they are from the 80s, badly worn and faded. Still, there’s probably plenty of aftermarket accessories around. I could strip the plastic off and make it a bagger.
Here’s the funny thing. While I’m searching, I wander down memory lane and see if there are any bikes like my first or second bike. My first new one was a Yamaha Virago 750. It was an ’83 I bought, new in the box, in ’85. Paid $1300 and change. I still remember the purr of the motor, the snap of the air, the look and feel of the bike as I road it home that night. Damn bikes, 40 years old, going for $1300 and change.
Maybe I’ll stumble on garage find. Garage is a mess, bike’s covered in clutter, the old lady wants it all gone, or the kids are cleaning up after pops goes to the home. Sadly, these millenials outsource that to a company, so there are no deals. At least the first few days of the sale.
My attitude? You could have the best gravestone in the cemetary or you could spend the money on whatever you want (motorbike, boat, guns etc.).
Guess which one I’m going for.
Get a sidecar for balance.
Or for four points of contact, you could consider one of these, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MaN1XZuqpA
Best wishes.
Fully understand your quest for a “forever-bike”. My only difference is that I won’t ride anything without ABS again, after putting mine down (twice) and noticing that my old-body reflexes mean I couldn’t help but lock the back wheel in an emergency brake – wasn’t the cause of the drops, but sure didn’t help either. But, yeah, the rest of the bells and whistles don’t really add to the ride. I suspect that in the near future, it will be more important to know how to turn the wrench than having the latest and greatest specific vehicle.
Oddly enough, I find myself browsing marketplace for a used Honda Shadow or something similar. I’ve taken my wife around the block on the TW200, but if we actually want to go to town I’m going to need something better set up for two up. I think like you I sense we’re in a window of opportunity. Having a cheap backup ride to town when gas hits $6 a gallon might not be a bad idea
Honda Shadows are good bikes; mine has been used hard and still runs great. I have the 1100cc ACE and it has gone coast to coast many times both solo and two up; Death Valley, over the Rockies, snowstorms, canyons, commuting… I’ve ridden it everywhere and it handles just about any situation. Be aware that (for the ACE at least) the jump from 750cc to 1100cc models gets you shaft drive instead of chain. The extra 350 cc in displacement is probably not that big of a deal for me (as I ride solo mostly now) but I love the low maintenance of shaft drive. Honda made eleventy zillion Shadows and thus they’re common and cheap.
My TW200 is in pieces right now. I’m adding more survival type junk and haven’t buttoned it back together yet. Two up on the little TW200 is definitely a short distance thing.
My “freedom on two wheels” of choice is a 2000 Honda Valkyrie Interstate. Same basic engine as the Goldwings of the era (1520cc flat 6) but carbureted, tuned for more power and without all the fancy geegaws and thingamajiggets to break. Mine’s the full dressed model but you can get the Standard without the fairing, hard bags and trunk, or the Tourer with just hard bags, no trunk or fairing.
It’s built like a Honda…take care of them and they’ll go forever. The only downside is that they only made them for 5 years, so supply is a bit thin (and getting thinner), but if you can find one in your price range that’s in decent shape…highly recommended by me.
If I find a Valkyrie I’ll jump for it. You’re spot on that the only starting with a Goldwing and then stripping all the junk wrapped around the great engine is a winning combination. I think a Valk is a nearly perfect bike. That said, I’m only looking at models with hard bags and preferably a trunk. When I added hard bags to my Honda Shadow it was a PITA. I’d prefer not to do that again and just buy something where they’re a factory option.
So far Valkyries are just a teeny bit out of my (admittedly low) price range.
Yea, that’s the problem with them being virtually immortal and relatively rare: I paid $11.5k for mine in 2002. Here we are 21 years later and I could probably still get within a couple or three thousand of that for it. Who knows, maybe someday it will be a classic and I can sell it to Jay Leno for $100k.
I’ll just stick with my restored 1963 VW Beetle and call it good.
Nice! Everyone loves a Beetle!