Cookstove! Google Fu Challenge

Some folks asked for more details about my stove (named Betsy) in hopes of delving deeper with their Google Fu. Here goes:

The manufacturer is Jungers Stove and Range Co. of Grafton Wisconsin.

Model is CC-8-39.

I didn’t get far in the few minutes I had to check it out. Smarter folk than me probably can suss it out in seconds.

Mostly I’d like to know when it was made and if I can buy parts or accessories for it. That said it’s complete enough that it functions fine for my needs. I’m just investigating out of curiosity. I think the oven thermometer is toast and I’d replace that if it were possible (and cheap). I don’t need an oven thermometer on the door but it appeals to my psyche to fix that which can be fixed. The oven door spring is a bit weak too. I think I can fix that with a generic spring from a hardware store. I’m in no hurry to worry about such a minor detail. Also if it came with a water heater, it’s long gone; which is acceptable because a water heater in a garage is just a thing that’ll either leak or freeze.

Good luck. Tell me what ya’ find.

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  1. Haven’t found you parts yet, but found the original sales material: https://goo.gl/photos/dac6g645FvLLiaDu5

  2. bmq215 says:

    Looks like a Jungers Cameo. Seems like they mostly focused on oil stoves and heaters, so the Cameo is a bit tough to find information about. The company went out of business sometime in the distant past and I haven’t been able to find much of anything in the way of parts. Here’s a 1935 catalog: https://archive.org/stream/JungersHeatersRangesFurnaces/JungersStoveRangeCompany0001#page/n13/mode/2up

  3. Ruth says:

    Well, it looks like that model was likely called the Cameo, they had an identical one called the Disto that burned oil. But nothing jumped at me for parts (but neither did I dig through ebay or the like). Looks like there wasn’t a true water tank, but instead a copper reservoir. The catalog that I used to ID the stove was published in 1935 and a copy can be found here: https://archive.org/details/JungersHeatersRangesFurnaces

  4. Southern Man says:

    This will probably either start a flame war or be entirely ignored, but: do you let the stove draw air directly from the room, or bring in outside air through a supply pipe?

    • I am letting it use room air for combustion.

      Now for my theories on that topic: So long as the exhaust goes out of the structure it’s perfectly safe to use in room air to feed the fire. The sole exception would be if your house is almost unworldly tightly sealed; which virtually none are (unless you’ve got an exotic hyper efficient, earth sheltered, space house, with windows and fittings that require their own financing). I use room air with my much newer and more modern stove in the house too. That (much newer) stove (which is like the space shuttle compared to the cook stove) has an apparatus that could be optionally rigged to combust external air. I read into it and the manufacturer didn’t seem to imply it was necessary or highly beneficial. Logistically the antique stove is not well suited to any other approach (the air intake vents would be hard to cover with a supply pipe).

      I suspect the “burn outside air” idea was something from the 1970’s that seemed good on paper (and it does make sense in theory) but it never really panned out in practice.

  5. ILTim says:

    The company operated in Grafton from 1911-1950:
    http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/WI/WI-idx?type=div&did=WI.OzGrafton.i0007&isize=text

    Small town with lots of little industrial businesses in that period, very little left today. Remaining companies are still small, 5-75 employees. Unlikely to find anything other than old eBay sales trinkets like a letter opener, brochures, etc.

  6. ILTim says:

    Here is the factory where your stove was built. I can see that water tower from my house.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3231561,-87.953075,3a,75y,249.17h,78.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb4g8mpkMBGjW92kr–w6Ow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

    Its listed in the historic records of Grafton (Pg. 17) along with the home Mr. John Junger built a block away in the 1920’s (Pg. 14). http://wi-grafton.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/View/6911

  7. Bruce says:

    Take a picture of that broken thermometer please. I bet we can find an industrial replacement.

    • I’ll take a photo but I only want to replace it if I can find the “right” replacement. It’s a “showpiece” on the front of the oven door.

      For actual baking (which is not something I’ll do a lot) I could use a simple “in oven” thermometer. There’s one in the pile of parts from the stove and that’s my first hint the OEM one is toast. If I need to I could buy a new “in oven” thermometer at any hardware store too.

      My guess is that the “built into the oven door” thermometer is like all “pretty but hard to replace” components on consumer goods; a cool gadget that’s more hassle than it’s worth. In this case it was probably broken long before I was born. (This reminds me of the first half dozen cars I owned which more often than not had a broken radio. It’s hard to complain about your rustbucket’s radio when you’re pleased that it actually started in the morning. That said, what was it with car radios in the 1970’s?)

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